Not All Atheists Are Alike

Not all atheists are alike | Crystal Cathedral confusion | What he said (about Norway) | To tweet or not to tweet | Skirting at edges of faith | Daring to cover the Womenpriests camp | In praise of journalistic restraint | Thanking God for that smokin’ hot wife | From Arne Fjeldstad: Belief? Ideology? Faith? | Guilt by footnote association | 2011 Archive >

A few weeks ago there was quite a brouhaha over an atheist challenge to a street sign honoring 9/11 victims. The name of the street is Richards Street but underneath the sign at one intersection is another street sign saying “Seven In Heaven Way” to honor seven local firefighters who were killed on September 11. And so newspapers and media outlets ran with the story. Most news stories seemed fine. One, I recall included quite a few atheists objecting to the complaint on the grounds it was petty or hurtful.

Well yesterday American Atheists filed suit to prevent cross-shaped steel girders from the wreckage of the World Trade Center towers from being included in the September 11 memorial. American Atheists president Dave Silverman was quoted by Courthouse News:

Mincing no words, Silverman, who is not a named plaintiff, added: “It [the cross] has been blessed by so-called holy men and presented as a reminder that their god, who couldn’t be bothered to stop the Muslim terrorists or prevent 3,000 people from being killed in his name, cared only enough to bestow upon us some rubble that resembles a cross. It’s a truly ridiculous assertion.”

ABC wrote up the lawsuit:

Jane Everhart, who is part of the atheist’s suit, derided the cross as nothing more than “ugly piece of wreckage” that “does not represent anything "¦ but horror and death.” …

“The Christian community found a piece of rubble that looked like an icon and they deified it. But really 9/11 had nothing to do with Christianity,” said American Atheists president Dave Silverman. “They want a monopoly and we don’t want that to happen.”

The article talked to the September 11 Memorial folks and they explained that other religious artifacts would also be on display, including a Star of David cut from WTC steel, a Bible fused to a piece of steel that was found during recovery efforts, and a Jewish prayer shawl that was donated by a victim’s family member:

In a statement to ABCNews.com, the memorial foundation identified the cross as a “symbol of spiritual comfort for the thousands of recovery workers who toiled at ground zero,” as well as an “authentic physical reminder” that “tell[s] the story of 9/11 in a way nothing else can.”

The article ends with competing quotes. One is from the rescue worker who found the cross after digging three bodies out from the rubble of the collapsed Twin Towers. He says he was overwhelmed upon its discovery and believes it’s a beautiful symbol of faith and freedom. He argues that it’s a “natural artifact” from Ground Zero. The other quote comes from the communications director for the American Atheists who says she can’t visit the memorial so long as there’s a cross there.

The article is fine but I wonder if it wouldn’t have been improved by including the voices of atheists who are not fans of this lawsuit. Otherwise it gives the impression that all atheists think lawsuits against featuring the remnant beam from the World Trade Center are a good idea.

One other thing. USA Today basically just quoted extensively from the American Atheist press release (which was unwise considering it had some errors of fact). But it mentioned that one of the plaintiffs was a man whose brother had done rescue work at the World Trade Center for two weeks following the attack and died in 2005. We’re told that the man wouldn’t want a cross to honor his brother unless it’s a Lutheran cross.

Now, as you may have picked up from previous blog posts, I am Lutheran. And I have literally no idea what a “Lutheran cross” is. I mean, is it a crucifix? We do like our crucifixes. Is it a plain rustic cross? I guess not, since that’s what the cross in question is. Is it something to do with the Lutheran Rose? What is it? I have no idea.

Image via Wikipedia.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is a website for discussion of media treatment of religion news. It is not a place to contribute sub-literate diatribes against Christians, Jews, atheists, etc. Actually, it’s not even a place to contribute literate diatribes against religious folks. I’ve had to delete literally dozens of comments for being so poorly composed and so completely off topic that I am embarrassed for the people who wrote them. If you want to spew, do it elsewhere. Thanks.

It’s pretty simple. If you are not christian and died at the wtc, would you want a christian symbol over the memorial? probably not. As an athiest i wouldn’t want a cross put up on my grave, it would be completely offensive, the same is probably true for any jews,muslims etc. the lawsuite asks for the cross to be removed or for equal space be given to other religious symbols. It is a completely fair demand.

Hot debate. What do you think? 100  100

I have been an atheist my whole life, 36 years. This lawsuit is absurd. I fear someone didn’t get the pony she wanted and desperately need attention. The only way I’d be offended by that cross is if it fell over on me.

Cheers.

Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 173  36

I’m not in favor of any lawsuit that bogs down our legal system with whining complaints about how things are done. If anything, we should sue the government for taking so long to recover from 9/11 and for punishing all of us for it’s inability to deal with this crisis or any other.

The cross is just a cross. It has no significance to me but seems to give others peace. Religion means nothing to me except that so many can find power in it to do what they need to do, hopefully not to send their children to crusade against their religious enemies, and to better themselves. Religion helps people recover from addiction, illness and depression. Again, I don’t desire it or need it. The greatest power is around us, in the sun and in ourselves. Life is amazing.

A few superstitious trinkets aren’t going to change anything and if I were to visit this site, I would smile thinking that this form of art seems to help somebody. I’d also look around and see the big picture. If I’m happy, amidst stress and crisis, why can’t others find peace?

Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 118  14

Mollie when you figure out what a Lutheran Cross is please let me know. As far as I know, there is not an official cross for most denominations in the Christian Faith. The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) will place one cross on the communion table, but also have a Celtic Cross on the building.

Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 17  13

I am a Jew, and I lost Jewish friends when the WTC fell. I call the “Ground Zero Rabbi” a peer I look up to, and like him, though I don’t want to speak for him on this matter (I know him well enough to stand up for Christians in other regards), I assure you that as Jews, we don’t take any more umbrage at a cross than we do any other religious symbol at the site. The bottom line is that yes, Jews, Muslims, everything else died that day, but so, too, did Christians, and if the cross doesn’t honor my friends’ memories, it honors theirs. Unbunch your panties and stop attacking Christians. It’s foolish and petty, and someday it’s going to backfire on all of you.

Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 107  20

Here you go:

http://www.seiyaku.com/images/cross/lutheran-large.png

(Not surprising that an atheist would know)

Read Full Article »
Comment
Show commentsHide Comments

Related Articles